MICKSS350 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I worked for GM & was a union rep for 20 of my 35 yrs. The myth that unions were the cause of GM`s financial collapse is probably the biggest hoax perpetuated by those on the Right to benefit big business. If you really want to know how GM got into that mess just Google General Motors Getting Eaten Alive by a Free Lunch, By Allan Sloan, it will explain in detain. It was written April 19, 2005. And lets not forget Fox and others like Rep. Richard Shelbys (R) AL, UAW workers $72 per Hr. lie!

Oddwun (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

All these people calling for union concessions when the company was going bankrupt. Now that the concessions were made and the companies are making billions in profit are they calling for the company to give the workers a raise?

Oddwun (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@Mrparrot73 You forgot the part about GM workers being constantly exposed to noise, toxic chemicals, slip/trip hazards, extreme temperatures, dangerous machinery, high voltage, repetetive motion injuries, asbestos, fork truck traffic, dangerous fumes and other inustrial hazards. I doubt you would work in a GM plant for twice as much as you make right now. Enjoy your comfy surroundings, you deserve them. At the same time do not begrudge a decent wage to those who also deserve them.

MrSupertwo (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

It's funny that people say it's the Union Wages that caused the problems with GM... I mean, seriously? How about the fact they made Shit Cars that no one wanted to buy for over a decade? 

MAINEPREPPER (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@GreenChurchReject LOL As opposed to corporations negotiating with the politicians THEY own. Funny, when I was in the Steel Workers Union I didn't make twice the salary and benefits of the private sector. Sounds like you've been swallowing propaganda. Don't worry though, we'll build that Tea Party Utopia where there is no more middle class and we are all equally poor except of course for the rich. You should read some history on the coal unions since you are determined to repeat it

GeneralG1810 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@Mrparrot73 OK so wat do ppl get out of staring at the fucking stars, or figuring out some bullshit mathematical equastion just so we can say its solved? You said your a mathematician so Im interested in hearing the practical uses for these problems. I knwo we need maths every day but not the kind your talking about. I suppose it taught us to split the atom, mind you that didnt work out to well for the Japs now did it

Mrparrot73 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@GeneralG1810 My science research is not useful but your hands on shop floor work is? Be sure to check out the TYT videos that accuse conservatives of anti-intellectualism.

GeneralG1810 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@Mrparrot73 Excuse me but how the fuck would you know how hard I worked, Ive finished my trade as a fitter machinist and depite what ppl think trades are NOT a walk in the park, the only difference between my education and yours is mines usefull. And heres a heads up I finished HS as alot of trades and non trades ppl do. As for your not complaining remark well it sure sounds like your whining to me buddy. Not my fault you wasted your life doing math that at the end of the day does nothing

GeneralG1810 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@Mrparrot73 Im asking why is the rich ppl feel they have the right to tred on poor ppl. Its funny how all these bankers and lawyers with degrees up the wazoo end up loosing all of a companies money but somehow its the guy who can hardly feed his family that feals the pinch. Not everyone can afford a good education are you saying they should be punished for that, its their fault they dont have degrees in thermal dynamics or some shit like that. Im just saying we need the average working joe

Mrparrot73 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@GeneralG1810 I'm not richer than you, I'm poorer than you. I worked a lot harder than you did all my life at school and I am not complaining. After years of grad school, I am often surprised at how much money I have now. I feel rich, though I make less money than you do.All I am asking is why you feel a laborer's job, which almost anyone could be taught to do, is so valuable as to "deserve" more pay than even a faculty member. Or do you want more than you "deserve"?